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David Cowhig   高大偉's avatar

Yes, I've long admired Zhou Tianyong. He has been saying things like this for years. Peasants rights -- they need to get the full benefits from the value of their land. Business people's rights need to be respected too. Over the years I have learned much from his writing. Some of them I have translated or summary translated on my translation blog.

2024 Party School’s Zhou Tianyong: Protecting Property Rights of Small Business is Fundamental for Economic Recovery https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2024/09/30/2024-zhou-tianyong-protecting-property-rights-of-small-business-is-fundamental/

2024: Zhou Tianyong on Detaining Businesspeople to Extort Fees to Boost Local Government Revenues (censored) https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2024/09/30/__trashed-2/

2021 Zhou Tianyong: Understanding Mixed Economy Distortions in the Chinese Economy

https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2022/10/30/2021-zhou-tianyong-understanding-mixed-economy-distortions-in-the-chinese-economy/

2022: Zhou Tianyong – Understanding China’s Economy Needs Both Structuralist Approach and Dualistic Institutional Vision https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2022/10/29/2022-zhou-tianyong-understanding-chinas-economy-needs-both-structuralist-approach-and-dualistic-institutional-vision/

2005: Zhou Tianyong: Reform of the Chinese Political Structure

https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/2005-zhou-tianyong-reform-of-the-chinese-political-system/

2005 Zhou Tianyong: To Increase Peasant Incomes Which is More Important, Boosting Funding or Rights? https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2016/10/14/%e8%8b%b1%e6%96%87%e7%bf%bb%e8%af%91%ef%bc%9a%e5%91%a8%e5%a4%a9%e5%8b%87-%e7%aa%81%e7%a0%b4%e5%8f%91%e5%b1%95%e7%9a%84%e4%bd%93%e5%88%b6%e6%80%a7%e9%9a%9c%e7%a2%8d/

How much can China move in the direction Zhou Tianyong wants it go? The Chinese Communist Party's worries about social and stability and the possible weakening of the Party's control and management of Chinese society constrains possible changes.

I wonder if a Marxist would worry about political consequences of thoroughgoing economic reform. Here are passages from Marx's 1859 "A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy". Under Party Secretary General Xi Jinping, Chinese universities have been opening institutes for the study of Marxism with Chinese characteristics of course. I wonder how much this passage from Karl Marx is stressed and understood. https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2022/01/13/xi-jinping-continue-sinicizing-and-adapting-marxism-to-our-times/

📘 English

In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life conditions the general process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness.

📗 中文翻译(官方译文)

人们在自己生活的社会生产中发生一定的、必然的、不以他们的意志为转移的关系,即同他们的物质生产力的一定发展阶段相适合的生产关系。 这些生产关系的总和构成社会的经济结构,即有法律的和政治的上层建筑竖立其上并有一定的社会意识形式与之相适应的现实基础。 物质生活的生产方式制约着整个社会生活、政治生活和精神生活的过程。 不是人们的意识决定人们的存在,相反,是人们的社会存在决定人们的意识。

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Charles Andrews's avatar

Zhou's proposed reforms are not fundamental. This is not a criticism. His proposals are steps on the long-traveled path of ensuring that China does not engage in planned socialism, in socialist planning, in moving toward equality and liberated work for all.

And his discussion is serious. In contrast, the praises of alleged Chinese socialism by some "socialists" in the West, for example at Friends of Socialist China, look truly ridiculous.

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